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		<title>By: Randa Clay</title>
		<link>http://randaclay.com/wordpress-themes/first-steps-in-designing-a-wordpress-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Randa Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like working with K2 all right, but this K2 Redux Klein that I&#039;m using was pretty difficult to work with at first.  Some themes, like Brian Gardner&#039;s, are easy to step into and tweak, but this one took me a little time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like working with K2 all right, but this K2 Redux Klein that I&#8217;m using was pretty difficult to work with at first.  Some themes, like Brian Gardner&#8217;s, are easy to step into and tweak, but this one took me a little time.</p>
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		<title>By: Mommy Zabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mommy Zabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how with k2 you can do a lot of &quot;custom styles&quot; ... what I do really isn&#039;t re-writing a theme, it&#039;s designing a custom style.

those are my inexperienced thoughts :)
-ma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like how with k2 you can do a lot of &#8220;custom styles&#8221; &#8230; what I do really isn&#8217;t re-writing a theme, it&#8217;s designing a custom style.</p>
<p>those are my inexperienced thoughts <img src='http://randaclay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
-ma</p>
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		<title>By: Randa Clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randa Clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Inga!!  I appreciate your kind comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Inga!!  I appreciate your kind comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Inga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Inga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Randa! I just wanted you to know that I love your Bluebird layout. It&#039;s currently on my site [and I &quot;pimped&quot; it out - lol], but I also left all the credits at the footer because all I did was just add my name to the header and change the font style. I change my layouts up a lot, so I&#039;ll probably have a new one next week, but just wanted you to know that I absolutely LOVE this layout! Simplicity is the key, and you nailed it with this particular one. Thanks!
:-)

Inga</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Randa! I just wanted you to know that I love your Bluebird layout. It&#8217;s currently on my site [and I "pimped" it out - lol], but I also left all the credits at the footer because all I did was just add my name to the header and change the font style. I change my layouts up a lot, so I&#8217;ll probably have a new one next week, but just wanted you to know that I absolutely LOVE this layout! Simplicity is the key, and you nailed it with this particular one. Thanks! <img src='http://randaclay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Inga</p>
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		<title>By: Blasts from the past at Randa Clay Design</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blasts from the past at Randa Clay Design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In March, as I began to fully realize the power of WordPress, I realized I wanted to create a free WordPress theme. I got some great comments in the process, and made some friends like Cory and Brian who were a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In March, as I began to fully realize the power of WordPress, I realized I wanted to create a free WordPress theme. I got some great comments in the process, and made some friends like Cory and Brian who were a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: WordPress Test Site &#187; Write A Theme</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordPress Test Site &#187; Write A Theme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2007 04:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://randaclay.com/archives/first-steps-in-designing-a-wordpress-theme    Posted by Jayec under Uncategorized [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://randaclay.com/archives/first-steps-in-designing-a-wordpress-theme" rel="nofollow">http://randaclay.com/archives/first-steps-in-designing-a-wordpress-theme</a>    Posted by Jayec under Uncategorized [...]</p>
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		<title>By: epicalex</title>
		<link>http://randaclay.com/wordpress-themes/first-steps-in-designing-a-wordpress-theme/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>epicalex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 15:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever i design a theme, i always seem to have been inspired by another, to either improve it or just because i like it. Ive yet to release any of them, but instead of putting based on... i put inspired by. That way the link and respect are still there, but it fits in better if what you have made doesnt look anything like the &#039;based on&#039; theme.

Think of Picaso, he was inspired by stuff, but his paintings didnt really look exactly like what he was inspired by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever i design a theme, i always seem to have been inspired by another, to either improve it or just because i like it. Ive yet to release any of them, but instead of putting based on&#8230; i put inspired by. That way the link and respect are still there, but it fits in better if what you have made doesnt look anything like the &#8216;based on&#8217; theme.</p>
<p>Think of Picaso, he was inspired by stuff, but his paintings didnt really look exactly like what he was inspired by.</p>
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		<title>By: WordPress Theme Design is 75% CSS : WordPress Themes</title>
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		<dc:creator>WordPress Theme Design is 75% CSS : WordPress Themes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 02:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] this can be found on a comment I left on my friend Randa&#8217;s blog, when she posted about the First Steps of Designing a WordPress Theme: Since it’s pretty darn near impossible to write every piece of php and css from scratch, I [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] this can be found on a comment I left on my friend Randa&#8217;s blog, when she posted about the First Steps of Designing a WordPress Theme: Since it’s pretty darn near impossible to write every piece of php and css from scratch, I [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Randa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,
I love your term - &quot;pimped themes&quot;.  Thanks for your input- some good clarification.

Cory!  I pimped one of your themes for a client very recently- okay I&#039;m still in the midst of pimping it: http://joannapeck.net/   It&#039;s really closer to a &quot;based on&quot; rather than a pimp- I just wanted to use that word.  You can tell me what you think-if you&#039;d prefer I changed the wording in the footer. Thanks for your visit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve,<br />
I love your term &#8211; &#8220;pimped themes&#8221;.  Thanks for your input- some good clarification.</p>
<p>Cory!  I pimped one of your themes for a client very recently- okay I&#8217;m still in the midst of pimping it: <a href="http://joannapeck.net/" rel="nofollow">http://joannapeck.net/</a>   It&#8217;s really closer to a &#8220;based on&#8221; rather than a pimp- I just wanted to use that word.  You can tell me what you think-if you&#8217;d prefer I changed the wording in the footer. Thanks for your visit.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great conversation and topic!

Brian has personally helped me a ton on working through doing my own themes, so I&#039;m very thankful to him for his excellent insight ...

And so, I&#039;ve also been on both sides of the fence. Loving certain themes and then tweaking them like Brian&#039;s, Small Potato&#039;s or Chris Pearson&#039;s ... but every time I did that I kept their links on those themes, because I felt it still wasn&#039;t my creation ... and my tweaks didn&#039;t warrant a &quot;new creation.&quot;

I also knew that if I couldn&#039;t have made it work without their code in place. So I was dependent on their work.

But there are two things I&#039;d throw my opinion out on, though, in this conversation ...

1. As a theme designer now, I don&#039;t like seeing something REALLY similar to my theme being copied without attribution. But there&#039;s gotta be a line between stealing and taking a pot and making it into a frisbee. For instance, if the new product is truly a new product, it&#039;ll be different. In other words, the average onlooker wouldn&#039;t put the two together as one. Not the designer, but the average onlooker ...

2. Saying all this though .... I need to make this follow-up statement. On the web, we designers have basically 6 fonts, maybe less or more, to work with ... and it irritates the fire out of me when designers think they OWN &quot;Arial Bold&quot; or &quot;Georgia.&quot; If the web font palette wasn&#039;t so limited, maybe I&#039;d be OK with this ... but it ain&#039;t. So just because one designer&#039;s favorite and &quot;signature&quot; font is Helvetica ... and you use Helvetica in your themes ... does NOT mean you have copied their design. For designers, I&#039;d say ... get over it.

Just my two cents ... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great conversation and topic!</p>
<p>Brian has personally helped me a ton on working through doing my own themes, so I&#8217;m very thankful to him for his excellent insight &#8230;</p>
<p>And so, I&#8217;ve also been on both sides of the fence. Loving certain themes and then tweaking them like Brian&#8217;s, Small Potato&#8217;s or Chris Pearson&#8217;s &#8230; but every time I did that I kept their links on those themes, because I felt it still wasn&#8217;t my creation &#8230; and my tweaks didn&#8217;t warrant a &#8220;new creation.&#8221;</p>
<p>I also knew that if I couldn&#8217;t have made it work without their code in place. So I was dependent on their work.</p>
<p>But there are two things I&#8217;d throw my opinion out on, though, in this conversation &#8230;</p>
<p>1. As a theme designer now, I don&#8217;t like seeing something REALLY similar to my theme being copied without attribution. But there&#8217;s gotta be a line between stealing and taking a pot and making it into a frisbee. For instance, if the new product is truly a new product, it&#8217;ll be different. In other words, the average onlooker wouldn&#8217;t put the two together as one. Not the designer, but the average onlooker &#8230;</p>
<p>2. Saying all this though &#8230;. I need to make this follow-up statement. On the web, we designers have basically 6 fonts, maybe less or more, to work with &#8230; and it irritates the fire out of me when designers think they OWN &#8220;Arial Bold&#8221; or &#8220;Georgia.&#8221; If the web font palette wasn&#8217;t so limited, maybe I&#8217;d be OK with this &#8230; but it ain&#8217;t. So just because one designer&#8217;s favorite and &#8220;signature&#8221; font is Helvetica &#8230; and you use Helvetica in your themes &#8230; does NOT mean you have copied their design. For designers, I&#8217;d say &#8230; get over it.</p>
<p>Just my two cents &#8230; <img src='http://randaclay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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